Honestly I don't think anybody offers a good ladder stand anymore. I bought two Rivers Edge Ladder Stands, two years ago for $80 each, 15' to the platform 17' to the seat. The platform comes with a nice pad and the seat folds up. The platform is full size, so when you fold up the seat you can lean against the tree and have plenty to room. It doesn't have any rails, arm rests or foot rests and it is very quiet, like being in a lock on. They don't make them anymore and I have not been able to find anything similar to them in that price range. Seems like all the stands available today, have a bunch of junk to get in the way with high price tags. All that extra stuff is not good for archery hunting except the footrest really doesn't matter.