Yeah I know the kit crap that comes with those bows is junk. I plan on setting her up right thats why I'm not lookin for a cheap pos bow.... I don't really have a preference. I've got friends who work at the mathews shop and guys at the archery shops that carry others so I don't ever worry about brand just shoot what I like. Its a little more limited when it comes to women/youth bows though. We are gonna try and shoot a couple this weekend if the shops have any of the lh models in stock. Thanks and anymore opinions keep em coming.