Hahaha! If you consider Zimbabwe, Mexico, Colombia, and Kyrgystan a more civilized nation than Spain, Japan, Germany, and New Zealand than you might be on to something! LOL!
Here's a list from the same web page where they show murders with firearms. Our standing here is much better, ain't it?
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...cides-firearms
And here's one for you. Gun death rates by state. Notice how your liberal states have lower rates and your freedom loving states have the higher rates. NO, no correlation between guns and crime, right?? LOL.
http://www.statemaster.com/graph/cri...te-per-100-000