Great zmax! El padre is on a buisness trip so ill tell him to update when he gets back. Yesterday was a good day for me not my dad thogh. We split up, and after 5 min. of daylight I hear one on what might be what we call smyth ground. I didn't go over there because I didnt want to get to far from dad then dad wouldnt know where I was and I dont have a cellphone, and other problems. Turns out I could have but what can you do. Long story short he eventuall shut up and wouldn't cross a 500yd field. I did call up a hen and saw a coyote, fox, and deer. So a pretty good dayhe however saw, heard nothing.