Well out bow/youth season started today. I didnt go but I went out to a couple of my spots and it is looking pretty promising. I am going to make some phone calls and get a trail cam up and try and get there pattern penned down. Come the 15th hopefully I can seal the deal on one of them. I didnt get a good look at the toms since I got pulled over by a sheriff trying to look at them(driving too slow and looked suspicious). But from what I saw they were pretty nice.