RE: 4x4 or 8 point?
In Idaho we use total points on whitetails (10 total points is a 10 pointer) and count by the side for mule deer (4 points on a side is a 4 point).
Usually on the mulies if they are nontypical with more than 4 points to a side then we add in the brow tines.
Like if you had a nontypical with 7 points on a side you would also count the eye guards and call it an 8 x 8.
On a straight typical 4 pointer we do not add in the eye guards, normally.