Well I finally patterned the 10 ga it has nice patterns out to 50 yards which is the end of my comfort range as far as shooting at a turkey with any gun. The felt recoil was less than the 12 ga 3.5 inch loads I used to hunt with out of my mossberg. I appreciate everyone's help and hope to get a nice tom this year. I was using winchester #5's 3.5 inch 2 1/4 ounce loads out of the 10 ga. And the sling makes a world of difference as far as carrying the gun around.