my 2 cents is that if you have all straight trees a climber is what u need. I have the hand climber and it is great for straight trees! very light easy to climb and comfortable enough if you arent a big guy! I use the hang on w/ climbing sticks attatched to the stand and can negotiate any tree in the woods! I also never leave it up. carry it in and out each time use head lamp to find the treee in the moring and get everything organized and set up! if the tree is already cleaned out and i have sat there before i can be in any tree and hunting in less than 15 min.