i had a simmons fail....but it was a different scope...

but, after that season, wounding and never finding 2 deer and missing one completely, i learned my lesson about quality scopes...

buy a used rifle in nice shape..grab a used leupold vari-x II or vx-II on ebay and you'll have a budget deer killin machine...

took me a couple lawns to buy my first leupold when i was 15...now i got 2 on both my centerfires...and i'll have a 3rd for my newest addition before the fall...

theres some decent glass on the market cheaper than Leupold...but leupold has a heck of a reputation and amazing customer service...anything is wrong with a leupold, new or 20 years old, send it back...if its old and they cant repair it to new, they will send you a new model that is comparable...cant beat it...

nothing agains guys not wanting to spend a fortune on a hunting rifle....but, ive learned you'll save money buying quality...you can pick up a used rifle and quality scope and be much happier in the end...and not have to learn the lesson the hard way about quality scopes like i did...

messed me up so bad that season i quit deer hunting...thats how we found the scope was broke...gave it to dad to have it mounted on a slug gun..the smith mounting the scope found that when the scope magnification was adjusted, the crosshairs moved...never knew where it would move and it never moved back to the scope zero...but if left alone on the same power, it would sight in fine...