i know its not a sniper rifle and im not anti gun by any means. i have a pretty big selection myself. all im saying is alot of people cant even shoot to the extent the firearm is made for. you guys may be able to but alot of ppl are just bad shot and they think a rifle that can shoot clover leafs at 200 yds(in the hands of a good shooter of course) will fix their problems. and skb i hunt a sod farm every year. the shots can be pretty far. its not like im hunting in the everglades. notice some of you guys r getting a little heated. no need for name calling im on your side i own several ars and close to a dozen firearms so dont think im some democrat trying to start a fight with yall. i think a rem 700 in some kind of 30 caliber in the hands of a good shot can shoot 500 plus yds with little modification and cleanly take any animal in north america.