I have shot and placed in state tounaments. Taught and been taught archery! Hunted and in Alaska been hunted (scary)! I have shot more animals with a bow in my younger years, killing more than 25 per year for several years. At that same time shooting state and local shoots. With the exception of Vegas, I have always placed high in the outcome. The one thing that sticks in my mind today, is something someone said to me, "you can shoot the spots off the 8 ball, but how are you at a real target"? He was speaking of live animals, and the first year we hunted together he took 7 deer more than me and 3 pigs more than me. He found out that just because I shot competition didn't mean that I can't take animals, but the lessons I learned from targets applied in shooting deer, and the lessons I learned from him about hunting still applies. No matter what the deer does after the shot, if you didn't aim at the vitals, you are missing a chance to harvest the animal. And if you don't keep the upper torso the same as when you are standing straight, it will be a miss. Archery, all, is a game of consistancy!!!!