While I "learn to shoot" you should learn to read, but I'm guessing that I'll be more successful than you will at our respective tasks.

I said that 2" groups are unacceptable TO ME (if you can live with that level of accuracy, that's fine with me), and with handloads I can always do much better for less money. Some factory ammo might do fine, but for what it costs, I'll spend less time and money working up a load than I would trying to find a suitable factory load. I also specifically mentioned my 257 Weatherby. If you can afford $80 a box ammo, great. I would not have bought the rifle had I not already had a handloading setup, and that rifle has not seen a factory load, and likely never will. $20/box vs. $80/box for ammo that will perform better... seems like a no brainer to me, so if you can't understand the economics of it, there can be only one reason. I also clearly stated (again, addressing the OP, not you), that he wouldn't see that level of savings loading for the more common cartridges. I load, or have loaded, for the following cartridges, so I, too, have a clue what I'm talking about (since you're obviously so hung up on credentials): 9mm Luger, .45 Colt, .454 Casull, 45 ACP, 38 Special, 357 Magnum, 44 Magnum, 22-250 Rem, 243 Win, .30-06 Springfield, 257 Weatherby Mag, 7mm STW, 300 WSM, 20 gauge and 12 gauge. I've been handloading since I was a young teenager, and I've never bothered to keep track of how many rounds I've loaded in total, but it's been a bunch.

What really gets me is that I ultimately agree with your recommendation for the OP NOT to handload, but for different reasons. Yet you decided to argue with me because, due in no small part to your lack of reading comprehension skills, you thought that just because my post followed yours I must have been addressing you. To give you a little clue, sequential threading is just how forums work. If I was talking to you, I'd have explicitly (or very clearly implicitly) made it known by either quoting your post, or by addressing my comments to you (e.g. vabyrd, ...). I'm sorry you can't understand.

Oh, and wait, looks like I do know how to shoot:
Savage 111 30-06 (this was actually a rare group shot with factory loads since I didn't have time to do a load workup before a hunting trip with this rifle):

Remington 700 LSS 257 Wby (load workup):

Tikka T3 300 WSM (workup):

Rem 700 LSS 257 Wby (this was a s**t's and giggles ladder test with some RL-19 I had laying around, the outliers are the midlevel load that opened up before the load tightened up toward the top):


I have a bunch more target pictures on a CD-Rom somewhere that never got transferred over to my iMac, and others that were lost when my laptop got fried. But these should be sufficient to prove my point. If you still don't understand, I can use smaller words.

Mike