Never found the need for a 12 on dove,not really a dangerous game bird so I shoot a 20gauge. Winchester 101 pigeon grade with mod/ic slinging 7 1/2's or even shoot Mdl 21 in skeet/skeet with same cheap loads and kill them out to 30-35 yards...but I'm in west Texas where when birds fly you can pick your shots. If shooting a 12 I would shoot mod with any 7 1/2 shot