[QUOTE=Wyvern Crossbow;2531125]===put something sharp into a 8" circle on a deer at 40yrds or less. ************ Are you KIDDING ME? Eight inches at 40 yards! My God man if you can't shoot better than that PLEASE stay home! I shoot a compound and I shoot a 2" group at 40 yards. I am 64 years old and have been shooting a bow a long time. My shoulder is beginning to give me problems and I was considering going to a crossbow but if they are no more accurate that you say I will give up bow hunting.