I'm in my tree stand 45 min before light stay there till 11'00 then get down sometimes walk slow threw the woods looking for signs.I'VE hunted out of all 4 of my stands but still nothing.I forgot to mention that i hunt morn and evening out of each stand .The woods i hunt in is 25-30 acers .I know every trail in the place .My stands are set up between 2 thickets and they all have a creek running threw it .In the past i had no problem seeing deer ,i've always taken 2 deer out of that woods A doe during bow and a buck during gun .It's these last 2 years thats driving me crazy .Thanks for all your advice maybe i'll keep trying who knows maybe i'll get lucky .Oh and thanks for the comment KEVIN1 is that you answer to everones problem .