TFOX

Your obviously not understanding what you are reading and not even comprehending what you are referencing.You obviously don't know how velocity/mass= ke.Then add to that bullet design and actually trying to make the bullet yaw so it will slow down.Remember,my argument in my original response was that penetration is not the main objective and said nothing about having MORE ke,it was in reference to utilizing the ke.


I never stated not to use the .223,but I do not reccomend them.There are too many much better option for kids.I don't like a 30/30 either(personal preference) and I have killed plenty deer with both.I prefer the 7mm-08,.270,.260,.308 and all are manageable for kids with light loads.My reasoning is pretty simple,kids get shook(buck fever) regardless of how good they shoot off the bench.They make less than desirable shots.I prefer to have the absolute most amount of damage possible on these kinds of hits.I have several nephews and 2 kids of my own and have tracked SEVERAL deer from the .223 and .243 because of this and these kids can shoot.