I shot one in the once with a 12 guage slug and it dropped in it's tracks.. A big hole going in and an even bigger hole going out. Another time I shot at a deer's head and did a complete miss.. I was using a 30-30 then. I was quite young on both of these shots and have learned to shoot for the neck when confronted with these types of shots.. So to each thier own on this one. For me it is preffered to take the neck shot over the head shot. Although I myself preffer the forward shoulder shot over anything else..