I just found that I have a guy with his climber 20 yards from where I was going to out my climber. It is state land so I will just have to move. I have more spots in my hand bag. Just discouraging to find out. At least I found out before the opener. Nothing more discouraging than letting it get light out and looking over to see a guy 20 yards in a tree next to you. Oh well nothing is going to stop me now I am ready. Good Luck To all even the guy next to my spot.