still can't post pics yet, but when you go hunting look at the 4th points, the longer the better,1'6-2'+. then look at the 3rds they should be long and curl out farther than the 4ths. a good bulls rack should almost be circular in shape from a front or rear view, they should be atleast 1'+ wider than the body(each side) learn the 4th point and count the tines above for a faster tine count instead of counting them all. good luck on your hunt hope this helps.