Hey I got my .410 yesterday.Shot great at 25 yards with Winchester Super X 3'' 71/2 shot.I got 55-60 pellets on a 8''x11'' sheet of paper.In my book, thats good for a 410.The other 410 I told u about,was doing REALLY GOOD to get 30-35 pellets on a sheet of paper.(same shell).It did ALOT better without the rear bead on it,it was throwing the pattern high,took the rear bead off,shot perfect!