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Old 06-01-2009 | 01:15 PM
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Down here in Alabama where I fish frogs DO NOT work for some reason . I have used rage tail frogs by strike king and ZOOM horny toad .
Denny Bauer says the Rage Tail is best..but Oneshot7 warned me..he may be saying that because he's being sponcered by Strike King..ANyway..I bought the Rage tail..WARNING !!Don't waste your money..they sink..and are tough to fish..and cost 1.00 more per package.
Zooom are the best in my book..lively,,soft and a nice deep place to hide the hook.

but neither have been working. I only use them right over top of eel grass, lily pads or hydrilla flats..Usually for flipping docks i use a medium heavy abu garcia rod with an abu garcia 5600 ambassadour with 17 lb flurocarbon . Also i use 3/8 ounce or 1/2 unce bullet weights. Do you thing this is a good combo ?
Personlly ..I fish very similiar to Bill Dance..light..I use a BB split shot when Texas rigging or pitching and flipping..I want a slow swim presentation..and it works great for me.The BB won't slide and if I want to change lures..I simply get out the needle nose and pinch the BB off..then I can switch to a fluke or frog..If I decide to go back to Texas RIg put another BB on..and BB split shots now are 50 for 1.29 where as sliding bullet sinkers are about 10 for 1.99. also..no need to peg the BB from sliding..you can also pinch it about 18 inches up to make a make shift Carolina Rig to drift over the weeds..If ya wanna go wacky worm..take the BB off..this way you don't have to retie the fook. I use 4/0 for aboutall of my plastic baits..

On setting the hook there are 2 primary styles..

A. Quick set..feel the pick up ..worm must be in fishes mouth set the hook hard like Hank Parker..Most use a medium heavy for this.THIS does not work for me..

B. I use the Pull set..I feel fish .I use a 7 foot medium action with a lively tip..I feel fish absorb rod tip //I take a slight breath and as the fish is pulling the bait and tip I pull sharply back and follow through to penetrate the hook..I catch most of my fish like this..When Horny Toady I caught 25% with the Quick Set..the next week I used the pull set with medium rod..80 % were caught.

For me..flipping and pitching I use BB shot
Jigs..3/16 with pumpkin craw legs trailor.
on a windy day I may use 3/16 ounce bullet sinker.
Flourcarbon..I HATE IT..For me the best line out there is Power Pro 20 pound test and for finesse fishing Trilene 10 pound clear.

I'm not sure what you mean by the matted grass..Here's what I fish in..so instead of going in the grass ..my Horny Toad makes them come up out of the grass. If the bite is slow..I'll go to the cattails and flip and pitch..

Is this what you call matted weeds?? This is good ole hydrilla..however I have a lot of different structures..lots of cattails,,,islands,,rock bars..murky water...clear water...hydrilla and over hanging willows..





and those reedy islands...great for crankbaits...like this 8.2 was caught on..


I love pitching these islands..but watch out for the gators..

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