I agree about manufactuers twisting the results to make them look better. I'm sure everyone does it... For example, look at the gel pics that I posted. The Lehigh gell is seperated by about a 1/2 in from exit/entrance of the two gells, where the copper bullet butts up against each other. Maybe that was accidental, I don't know, but it just casts doubt on the resutls. But at this point, it's all we have so it's worht looking at.

That's what's great about the forum here. When Sabotloader does his tourture test I will KNOW that I can trust the results. He isn't paid by Lehigh and has nothing to gain by making these bullets look better than what tehy are.

Sooooooo hurry up Sabotloader