dan, you have never stated what you are trying to achieve through this process. also, according to a state biologist from virginia that i recently spoke with, it is mathematically impossible to have a doe to buck ratio as great as you are claiming. why would you cull, lunchbasket, when dan stated that the herd is limited in his area, kinda going against what you are trying to achieve, imho. while qdm is a negative thing overall, except in the southeast where it is used as the tool that it was meant to be, if you really feel that you want( not need, in this case because of limited deer available) larger bucks, get your neighbors to also relax on the taking of smaller deer. you haven' t stated what the neighbors do doing hunting season, if they shoot what they want to as far as bucks go. do they hunt at all?remember, a buck has a home range of at least 600 acres, so i would try to tie up at least a thousand to get good results. how many deer per acre/mile do you have? there is so much more to this than just shooting does, or passing on smaller bucks than most people think there is, to maintain a healthy herd, not just what is locally on your and your neighbors property. your best bet is to lay off the bucks, plant some food plots( qdm at its best, ha!), so that " your " deer will hopefully stay in the area