My shop's demo is supposed to be in friday- prolly won;t be able to get to it til MOnday.

I have no desire to buy such a bow, but I am anxious to check it out- If its got more valley than the XForce, and is more polite than the Xforce at the shot , then Matt is gonna sell the hell out of them.

I know the XF has it's fans, but the only redeeming qualities IMO about it is the comfy grip, and how quiet it is for the speed- the vibe in the riser and recoil is typical PSE. It def needs a string stopper (shot the 08s), and tons of Sims gear- and draw lengths that are not 3/4" long. People bash Mathews for their advertising- but the whole Xforce ad campaign "message" (print, video, etc) is a bigger joke than anything Matt has done.