I was wondering if any of you have tried those twist vanes? I shot my bow today for the first time getting it set up and I had those twist vanes and I thought they were gabage. I took a couple of my brother in laws arrows which are standard blazer vanes and the difference was clearly evident. I was at a bow shop back in late December and the sales guy talked me into the twist vanes and I will never buy another set. IMO another gimmick that got into my pocket.