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Old 02-27-2009, 05:05 PM
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Remnard
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Default RE: ar restictions for ny

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ORIGINAL: Remnard

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It wouldn't bother me one bit if this was done on a state-wide basis . I have no problem with shooting does .

I don't particularly care for the "if it's brown , it's down " attitude !
What about the kid or newbie that does want to shoot a small buck, why should your current standards, dictate what others coming up behind you, shoot? Telling other hunters its wrong to shoot small bucks ,cause the average buck might get a few more inches on their racks, 10 years down the line, if we all shoot bigger ones, is like telling a guy its wrong to marry an ugly woman, because if we all marry hot women, well all be better looking in the future. Total elitist attitude.
It is wrong to marry an ugly woman! Unless you're an uglier guy.

Its not the same either. It's not about looks. Antlers and testosterone go hand in hand. despite the size of the horns nature intends the best bucks to breed. You won't have the best bucks unless they get some age on them.

Now if you went around killing all the ugly woman, that would be different. If there was no alcohol in the world, most ugly women wouldn't breed anyway!

Its not about us. Antlers are just a perk of quality deer management.
Are you trying to say the older bucks with the biggest racks, do the most breeding? Simply not true, in fact Id bet the older bucks are the ones that dont do much breeding at all cause their hiding while the smaller ones are running around breeding.

Its seems totally ridiculous that hunters think they can control the breeding habits of deer.
I'm saying the dominant bucks with the most sense are doing the lions share of the breeding year after year. Bucks get old because they are smart. How much seed do you think the yearling bucks that are running around during the day are planting? They may breed one or 2 does before they get shot by some meat hunter but the smarter 5-6-7 year old bucks that are hiding during the DAY are doing the lions share of the breeding at night. Thats why smart deer that know better become nocturnal. Buck supression pretty much keeps the beta bucks from doing a lot of breeding. If you were getting shot at while trying to pick up women during the day, you would start trying to do it at night pretty quick aslo.

I'm not saying we can control the breeding habits of deer. What I am saying is if you leave a good cross section of age classes they will sort them selves out and nature will take over as far as who is doing the breeding. The normal natural structure is 1:1 when we screw with that it causes too many deer per square mile, which is why we are up to our eyeballs in deer in some areas.


Its not about the hunter.
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