PA Im not getting what ya'd call "anal accuracy" out of them. However they are down in the inch and slightly less category in the 243 and the 270 I have loaded them for. For some reason both of those guns are powder sluts though. Seem to like heavy loads to really tighten the groups up. I havent started on that 300 Savage yet but Id say Ive got enough brass to last me forever with that thing as well thanks to Widener's...