If you are having that good of luck with bore butter, perhaps you should keep using it. As I said, I don't like it, but that is my opinion. And I have not used bore butter for over fifteen years in a rifle.

I cleaned a different traditional rifle with the Montana X-treme yesterday. Now this rifle was treated well, and not really shot too much over the years. It was one I bought on sale and shot occasionally. But this one gave up just a gray first patch and then a clean patch. I patched that bore dry and bore treated it. It is shining really good now. It was protected with Sheath.

This is really getting interesting now. And more confusing to me..