thanks for the input guys, i will have to check out the CZ ( quality rifles at a great price as i almost bought a 453 hmr last year) and the remmy vls for sure........Rammer, yes cooper does make a repeater but im pretty sure it is only availiable in .25-06 and larger calibers. great cal on deer sized critters but gettin a little big for yotes. As far as the wssm calibers......i will probably stay away from them........i shot my buddies .243wssm and compared to the .243 it heats way faster......like 3.shots to one....after 4-5 shots groups start to spread and it needs too cool. not really worth the little bit extra velocity in my mind.