I think you will find that what is best depends on several things including what powder you are burning in that particular gun and what you clean it with sometimes for some people it would include how long it will be before you shoot again. Personally I use the Montana Xtreme products with BH209 and the guns I shoot it in and I use Birchwood Casey Sheath [Barricade] and Synthetic oil in the guns I clean with windshield washer and ALK and soap and water. Lee