For crying out loud Jim.I'm not a lemming either.I've always disagreed with the way Alt sold this plan and fully agree that the guy made ridiculous claims that could never come true.I'll go as far as saying and I said this back in 2003.The guy is either a a liar,a lousy biologist or a complete moron.As far as Madl goes,he seems like a real piece of work as well.None of that changes the fact that no evidence exists that anyone from the PGC benefited or was paid off by anyone.

Jim,the herd was definately increasing from 1987 untiol 1997.there is no doubtabout it.We needed less deer.