Ike, I agree to a point, but a 3" tear is an awful lot, especially with a bare shaft. Sure doesn't sound like his bow is launching arrows as efficiently as it should. I had a "pro" paper tune my bow at 20 yards. Nice bullet hole. I stepped up to 6 feet and got a gawd awful tear. He told me you can't tune that close, you gotta give the arrow time to stabilize.... I went home, set my bow up properly, got an easy bullet hole at 6' and good groups at various yardages, and picked up over 20 fps from where he had it "tuned" at... Something sure sounds wrong with mlj64's new rest, as apparently it is the only new variable added since he was getting good results.