I' ll just jump right in my car and drive right over there. CYA in what 20 hours or so. Two of the guys I was hopeing to get a little insite on this topic from, just backed down. Afraid to name names? I believe the only thing thats been beaten to death about this is whether S/L nock travel is needed. You both have convinced some of us it is. Now when we ask for your help, you bail out on us.