RSB, you are a funny man. You have claimed in the past that nature is controlling the herd in 2G by increased predation and the very decreased breeding rates and productivity that you are now claiming to be the result of incorrect data. So which is it? And why was the herd in 2G stilll increasing after decades of high DD prior to the onset of HR? Doesn't sound like nature was controlling the herd even at it's highest levels, yet you claim that now with DD below 12 dpsm andOWDD even lower, that nature is controlling the herd, not hunter harvest. You have also stated that you favor continued reduction in your region, despite the PGC's reccomendation of an increase. So which is it? Does a deer cop know more than the biologists now? Does a deer cop know any more than a forester, a medic, a farmer, or a blue collar worker? Is "damage control"/PR now one of the duties of the PGC law enforcement? You claim that the general hunting population is uneducated in deer mgt principles, and you are wrong. A decade or more ago that may have been a true statement, but the current state of mismanagement has served to educate many among our ranks. Once again you are wrong,and once again you have sought to decieve by flipflopping your previous stated positions.