I believe my suspicions have been confirmed. If the deer is close enough to "maybe" smell your clothes/gear, he is definately close enough to smell you. You do not hunt in a rubber bubble. Maybe the products work, but they will NEVER get you "Scent-free". Hunt the wind no matter what. If it switches on you and you still get lucky, then look at it as just that, "luck". It will not happen every time I can assure you. You hunt the wrong wind on purpose, or by accident, no amount of scent control is gonna work every time.

LT