Phew...Dang shame I gotta be pulled away to actually hafta work, then come back to .....THIS. (LOL) Btb, for cryin' out loud grow up man! I never see you EVER try to prove anything with facts or disprove others with facts...Like I and others do. All I see you do is hee-haw and bray like a dang donkey about absolutely nothing. Get with the program or step aside and let the big boys talk eh? Id be happy to engage ya in debate if you would actually offer something other than complaining and insults.

Now back on track, FIrst off, sorry fellas, I made a typo. Was in a helluva hurry, had business to tend to thatactuallytried to pull me away before I even started my last post... Anyway, That 35 dpsm was supposed to read TWENTY FIVE.

That is the average deer density ow on the 2005 annual report for 2A. And that is meaningful because the last 4 years our goalwas supposedly stabilization.The range given is 21-30 for the wmu. Averages out to 25.

Anyway, you ask me if 36 is enough...Or for that matter you could ask 25? 50?

I have no set dpsm we must have. And we dont have deer goals because it is or isnt enough. But by pgcs reasoning, herd health, human conflict and habitat are the measuring devices. Based on those the amount of reduction (could even be argued any at all) was grossly unnecessary. I also believe Id stated my opinion on the matter already when I said I believed there was no need for extremes, 10-20% reduction would have been PLENTY for soley preventative measures.

When stating the above I do so as objectively as possible, not at a person whose hunting has been effected by this, just looking at it all from the outside in an unbiased fashion, and stating what seems pretty obvious. If I were to do so otherwise, to ask myself how it effects my hunting in a less than beneficial manner it would be because we have fewer good buck now than we did previously thanks to all that reduction and less buck being born and fewer bb existing because they too are shot for antlerless. ONly concern I have about doe isnt about me harvesting them. Thatsa joke. Id hardly call shooting a doe a challenge even if thedpsm were 15. Its producing the good bucks that has taken the hit.

And btw, despite pgc claims we are STILL reducing the herd even more and that is what I have the biggest problem of all with here. The claim was stabilization 4 years ago and up to and including this year. The doe allocation was raised twice in that time period by over 15,000 tags total, And goals of 18k harvested when only 16,500 reduced it approximately 7% according to pgc 2004 annual report.