Cayugad,

I learned something really cool while stuck. When the guy came to get us he was able to get himself unstuck with a hand winch. He had this real big 2500 chevy. He strapped the wire from the hand winch around a real small oak like maybe 1.5" in diameter and that was enough to get himself out. My buddy and I were like damn were getting one of those.

Yeah instead of in bed I'm at work being incredibly unproductive as you can see! LOL.

Tom