don't want to ruffle any feathers ...but ...the HORNADY SST .250gr. and the T/C SHOCKWAVE .250 gr. are made by HORNADY ..both are fantastic shooters in my T/C ENCORE ..i shot 1 spike and 1 female this fall and both were hit through the heart ,both were complete pass-throughs ,both ran over 50 to 75 yards ..here comes the good part NO BLOOD TRAIL on both deer ...we had snow on the ground so tracking was easy [recovered both deer ] my parteners were not as lucky they lost 4 deers [NO BLOOD TRAIL] the snow had all melted ..we searched for 2 hours and never found them ...after doing some research on different forums i found what i was looking for ,something that will not waste good meat ..i know shot placement is of the utmost importance ..we all have scopes on our ML. ers ..from now on [BARNES SPIT-FIRE TMZ .250gr.]