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Old 12-05-2008 | 02:17 PM
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gleason.chapman
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Default RE: Do Shockwaves expand?

Go over to Cabelas and on the SW Product, read the 65 product reviews, here is the link:

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20712-cat200005_TGP&id=0040853216233a&navCount=1 &podId=0040853&parentId=cat200005&mast erpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=IJ&am p;rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat601233& amp;hasJS=true

here is one of the reviews:










Overall Rating:

1 out of 5 [/align]DON'T HUNT WITH, December 3, 2008
By Kushy from Fowlerville, MI
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"These bullets look great on paper, but they do not perform well on game at all. I shoot a Remington 700 ML with a 24 inch tube, 100 grains of 777 loose FFFG (1950 fps), and 777 primers. My friends shoot omegas with the same powder, but they use 120 grains of loose (2200 fps). We laid down over 10 deer last year at ranges of 25-191 yards. Not one of these bullets (SST/Shockwave) expanded. Some shots hit shoulder bone, while other busted thru ribs. Also, I personally field dressed each of these deer and was not impressed at all by the internal damage. My .357 magnum shooting handloaded 180 grain XTPs does more damage to a deer. These bullets simply do not expand when they hit; futhermore, the lack of expansion leads to extremely poor blood trails. I swithced to Barnes Expanders 250 grain this season and couldn't be happier. The group size is still about 2-3 inches at 150 yards and the expander only drops about 2 more inches at this range as compared to the Shockwave. My wife shot a buck with the Barnes Expander and we had an exit wound that was about 2 inches in diameter. The internal damage rivaled a 30-06 wound channel. She pulled the shot, which resulted in a high hit from a treestand, but that bullet blew part of the backstrap into the chest, detached a tenderloin, blew the liver in 2 pieces, tore a huge hole in the diaphram, and destroyed the back half of both lungs. Her buck dropped and never moved a muscle. I shot a doe with the same load and same stand last year with a Shockwave. My doe ran 50 yards, with no blood, and an exit wound the same size as the entrance. By the way, the distance was 30 yards on both deer, which means the impact velocity is around 1850ish. According to Barnes, the Expander will open down to velocities around 1100 FPS. Shockwaves are a target bullet and most target bullets are FMJs. After testing these in the field, I would rather hunt with a 400 grain solid."
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No Expansion, December 11, 2007
By Hammercl from Illinois
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"I used the 250 grain 50 cal. Shockwave Sabot this year in a CVA Electra for Deer Hunting in Illinois. I was using 150 grain of Triple 7 in the pellet form. The Sabot speed was right around 2,250 fps. I shot a (9) point Buck at 85 yards. The Sabot entered just behind the front left shoulder blade and travels completely through the entire inside of the buck exiting just in front of the right rear hip joint causing a lot of damage as it went through the stomach area of the deer but the Sabot did not expand at all. I was truly disappointed with the Sabot not expanding. Both the entrance and exit holes were the same diameter. I will be trying a different Sabot next year."


I think you know exactly how to use a SW and your doing shoulder shots which is exacly what they are designed for, these folks are not shooting shoulder shots and get some poor results.

Chap

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