Summit climbers all the way!!!I didn't like climbing stands for saftey reasons and would not use them.I heard everyone talk about the summit viper and how safe and comfortable it is.So i boughta used one and all I can say is WOW!I love it,I have ladder stands put up but I hunt out of my summit more than I use my ladder stands anymore.It is very solid all the way around,weather your climbing up the tree,coming down,or sitting in the tree hunting,she doesn't move at all!I am a little on the tall side,so im going to purchase me a SummitTitan in the coming months,they are even more roomier than the goalith!But i would go wtih Summit tree stands.They may be pricey,but you get what you pay for!