Bowhunter818, your right the Treewalker's are real impressive. I got the LT model a month ago. I have used it just about every day since I got it. These things are unbelievable. Super light, quiet, no straps to hold them together or for your feet to go inand very easy to climb with. Not to mention the web seat is very comfortable.I would recomend the to anyone looking to get a new climber. I showed it to a couple of my hunting buddies and they are getting them for next year.