no i dont use a powder measure, i weigh each load-guess i think it' s fun! vapodog--what do ya mean too much at stake, not a smart a** question just dont understand what ya mean. sometimes when i' m reloading it appears to my eye as though the pile of powder is larger/or smaller than the previousl load--of course i start over and reweigh a new load, maybe i' m just not trusting my scales when i should, wanting to find out from guys withmore experience if they' ve had this happen,, and did a more expensive scale make any difference..i' m also having a hard time finding a load that groups any better than factory loads,, maybe i' m just not patient enough and hav' nt put in the time necessary to find that (perfect) load?