Smart move. I' m new to this site also. I was looking for archery stuff and stumbled across it, nice site. As for the Renegade, ask $150 and don' t budge! With the life time warranty it is more than worth it, plus you know it shoots good. I teach hunter education for black powder and you would not believe the stories about the rifles I hear. TC is the way to go. Good luck with the Encore.