i understand what you are saying, i just want to know what contour you guys would use. the .308 i had worked on was a straight taper and i am looking for a sporter type contour. i already know that i am crazy and that my expectations are to high, my fiance has told me that on several occasions but she said i could not buy anymore guns untill we were married, but she never said that i could not customize the ones i already have. you guys are great and i thank you for any info that you pass on to me.........