7mm-08 Supposedly a youth round. He never took another step. Shot placement as always will be key. They're bullet proof unless you shoot them in the neck right behind the ear. The bullet proofness goes away real quick after that. They don't like to bleed, they don't like die, they don't like to hang out where you can see them fall. Shoot'em in the neck and save yourself a lot of trouble and heartache. They can take almost anything you throw at them from the shoulder back. Forward of the shoulder, they will not go far, if at all.