Jrbsr, some of the guys say Simmons is a piece of crap. That is not so, at least not the Aetec. I have a 3.8-12x44 Aetec I'm willing to part with if you are interested, at no cost. There is nothing wrong with it other than a slight dent in the AO, which didn't affect it whatsoever. I've killed many deer with this scope on my gun and never had a problem with it. It's really not a bad scope at all. A new one would cost you over $200 plus tax. This one is not the new master series. If you are interested, let me know.