I usually go for around 12 to 15 feet back from chosen point of picture spot. I hang mine acording to dips and grades. Usually on flat ground about 3.5 feet off the ground. Im using the AT-5 camera mounts right now from alpine archery. They can be mounted on trees or fence posts and are adjustable. I find i still shim with sticks to get it just right. I use the laser to set the aim.