I use an API Grand Slam Super Star. The climbing seat bar opens for an open front if desired, and there is a combo foot/rifle rest, depending on if its positioned up or down. The stock chain covering stinks, but if you replace it with regular vinyl tubing you can get at home depot, it is very durable. Just pop out the bushings for the chain, replace the heat shrink stuff or whatever it is with vinyl tubing, and you're good to go. Very comfortable stand. And sorry, I like the harness. Lawyers can argue anything and win. Of course the harness lacks a mechanism to get you safely back in the tree. if you use it right, you shouldn't need one. There are probably some devices people use that can help you in case of a fall, but I wouldn't think they generally come with climbing stands, or fixed stands for that matter. I'm thinking thats something you'd have to get after market.