I shoot a couple of wildcats so original brass takes on a whole new look by the time its finished anyway. Best time to "range scroung" is the couple of weeks heading up to the opening day of rifle deer/elk season. The 'once a year shooter' buys a brand new box of 30-30 ammo from WMart. Shoots off the whole box and neatly puts them back in the little holder they came in. I lean over and ask if he keeps that stuff...they always say no. They never hit the floor and by the time I have them ready to use they are cleaner, fatter, shorter, necked down, neck turnedand perfect.