Guess I'm an 11. I make a special trip to to the public range on Sunday when it opens at 1300 rather than 1000. I have the kids pick up every peice of brass one the ground, if I shoot it it gets cleaned resized and inspected. If it fails it goes the same place all the 22 rimfire goes, the recycling center for cash. Before you ask it's 12 miles, so one trip yeilds 300 9mm at least, 300 40 S&W, and the most importand 45 ACP more than pays for the gas, not to mention the other 10lbs of brass that I don't reload, whaTEVER A FULL 10 GALLON BUCKET WEIGHS.